I can't believe this thread got GRAY-LINED! How wrong we all were. Also, the surgery was in autumn, 2017, two years after the 2015 BK. Selling prescription meds? L Lynda Pringle 2 followers More information Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] Fairy Garden Diy Ex Husbands True Crime Leonard Watts Interview Anne Family Quick More information . If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesnt mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. But Shannon was not normal, since she had her whole materialistic/I and my kiddos are so sick con gig going. Also said that she claimed to have been a domestic violence victim but was friendly with her ex husband. Rinse and repeat in Colorado except the down payment probably came out of Chris's and/or her parents (who also filed bk) bank accounts. How much did Shanann have wrapped up in inventory? Chris Watts displayed Ted Bundy level coldness and emotionally tortured those girls before making them watch him killing each other and throwing their dead mothers body around like trash. Her husband should have left her & divorced her, or never married her in the first place. Dont interrupt me. The body of Shanann Watts, 34, was found in a shallow grave near an oil tank on property owned by the oil and gas company where her husband had worked. All parents would want the best education for their children. that they could have a credit rating for a house like that. R150 The overspending was documented on her social media and records about the financial problems are out there as well. Does that mean my husband should kill me, too?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! And she DID turn the kids against Chris. Shananns worries about her marriage had eaten up her confidence in Chris and their bond together. And furnished it (with tacky shit, oh my goodness that woman liked purple and aqua). Watts, 35, reportedly detailed the gruesome slaying of Shanann Watts in one of his prison letters - and he also revealed that he'd been thinking about killing her for "weeks." 15 Plus, there was a newspaper article written about the tire place she worked in in NC, and in the article her name was spelled "Shanann," and a lawsuit filed against her with her named spelled "Shanann.". Negligence. Is Shanann the only girlfriend he ever had? Thank you all for this thread. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. R222 everybody was exaggerating the crap out of their income and assets when applying for loans back then and getting away with it. But pronounce it HayZoos. How she loved and cherished her. The only thing Chris thought about when he snuffed them out, was his personal freedom as a newly buff beefcake to fuck Nicole Kessinger as well as other women (come on, he didn't just do this for HER only), and enjoy keeping his income for himself and his own pleasures. He assumed that SHANANN kept her policy and would have changed the beneficiary. This is the business where its rumored Shanann. Hello and thank you for registering. HE is not getting this media-inspired bullshit. Two years later, he is housed at Dodge Correctional Institution, a maximum-security prison, in Waupun, Wisconsin. lol, Chris Watts is a victim of his own choices, that's about it. It is known that she did not die until days later. I can't imagine after bankruptcy etc. LEONARD was unable to get details from her. On Thursday, authorities found three bodies: Shanann was buried in a shallow grave about 40 miles east of their home at a work site belonging to her husband's former employer (which fired him. Sister of Private. It is so fucking disturbing. Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com
Text and recorded audio files were released by Colorado officials Thursday after an in-prison interview with Chris Watts. Nag, nag, nag. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. He probably considered the kids' murders as a mercy killing. She has a few anecdotes that ring true to me, but I wouldnt vouch for her absolute truthfulness. For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. Someone on a FB forum had the same thing and said that their out-of-pocket/co-pay was like a thousand dollars. How many times did this trashy couple declare bankruptcy? Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. Identity is an interesting thing. I thought this thread was entitled 'Let's talk about Shannan Watts' as an excuse to get back to talking about Chris? Shanann, who did direct sales for a multi-level marketing company that sold health supplements, was extremely active on Facebook, posting clients' weight-loss success stories as well as her photos from her own seemingly happy home life on a daily basis. That router article is amazing work Nick! Text messages obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request by the Daily Mail show Shanann Watts was trying to save her marriage in the weeks before her husband, Chris Watts, murdered her and her two daughters. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. ", Weeks earlier, while she was in North Carolina visiting her family with daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, she wrote to Chris: l realized during this trip whats missing in our relationship! R78 You're probably not nearly as bad as you think you are. That's idiotic R70. Foolish and impulsive on her part, but not at all impossible at the time. R154: why did Chris have her sell her house, drag her across the country, purchase a $400K house he could not afford in his name only, then murder her and their children? First of all, its doubtful a 100k surgery, or whatever, resulted in a 25k debt. This is sweet as well. If the tables had been turned, you bet it would have been called abuse. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. The more I look into that marriage, the worse I feel. Made disparaging remarks about the size and decor of others homes and cars. Written by on 27 febrero, 2023. He buried them at his place of work and left a bedsheet in the field. Said he thought another baby would fix his feelings. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. Would you know my name if I saw you thriving in heaven? Just like Shanann had her parents Sandra and Frank move in in 2015/2016 meanwhile while Shanann/Chris and Sandra/Frank file BK? From all that we know, that sounds exactly like CW, and shrinking-violet SW was being dragged along and acquiesced to whatever her man told her to do. He had already been contacted by NBC News. Considering how Shanann gained the confidence of others and used them, I have no doubt she wouldve alienated the girls against Chris. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Chris and Shanann got married on November 3, 2012, in Mecklenberg County, North Carolina. Maybe I will become Jesus. Together with the idiotic sheriff from the Jayme Closs story, I cannot help but think, "Holy crap, Law Enforcement in this country is populated with total idiots.". The hetero ladies who get their panties wet over a guy who murdered his wife and kids are creepy. That was the elusive diagnosis that put them in debt this time. Jennifer Hart used her adopted children as props in her social media posts. The girls in the tanks, neatly hidden from view. Required fields are marked *. Police footage shows the . Chris pleaded guilty to the crimes that . The following day, Chris spoke with local media outlets from . The Rzucek's Say They Loved Chris At First. Shannan and the ex's wife were FB friends, she signed her up to Thrive but she didn't do very well with it. 05:02 GMT 17 Aug 2018 I wonder if she might have used that Thrive crap on the kids. I can hardly wait for the new details of what Watts just told the cops to be released on March 8th (Or is it March 10th?). If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesn't mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Watts was convicted of strangling his wife, Shanann, 34, in the house and then smothering his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, at his work site. Was he down-playing them because his brain could not process some inner rage about finances? Idk how that bitch is still getting TV interviews after the cops were likeyeah this is bullshit. I think Chris is secretly relieved to be in prison. It was Bumfuck, NC, but still worth $400k. R253, whats the Anadarko lawsuit angle? R55, Shananns mother signed as a guarantor for their CO home. LEONARD denied that he currently had any policies on her life. She was a miserable user. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. R19, my mistake. He learned of this case from social media and news. I don't get it. She would have received spousal support but there is a time limit on that. I would love to have a conjugal visit Chris Watts! Worse than anything that I or any DL detective squad member dreamed upand we had a lot of theories about what went down since this happened. Or repeatedly mess around with their kids names. R230, Guuurrrl, this is the only place we're allowed to talk about her Munchausen's and Munchausen's by Proxy. That router article is amazing . It amazes me to see photos and videos of Bella and CeeCee and the love they had for one another is plain to see. And she had turned thee dining room into a clothing store with commercial racks filled with clothes. She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. I think men (more than women) think Chris Watts is attractive. Shanann Watts, 34, posted the photo of the shrouded doll on August 9, days before police say she and her daughtersCeleste, three, and Bella, four, were killed in their Frederick, Colorado home, on the northern outskirts of Denver. She said on Facebook that she would return from Scottsdale on Sunday, August 12. What was she doing? 1. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN left her cell phone at home. Okay. Auto mechanics are catnip to gold diggers. I didnt like her at all, I basically agree with half the folks on here in that she was an attention seeking, materialistic, annoying AF Frau. I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. Following the disappearance of Chris' wife, Shanann Watts, and the couple's two children from a small Denver suburb in 2018, a major police hunt ensued. He said they hadn't spoken since they split and he didn't even know her current name. But I do view him as a victim. Chris was broken LONG before he met Shanann. From her sketchy past and grifting ways, to the possible Munchausen Syndrome or Factitious Disorder, to the MLM scheme she was knee-deep in, to her dozens of vapid Facebook livestreams and Instagram posts now eternally available for public consumption and dissection, to her manipulation of "friends" and family, it's evident she was at best a woman desperate to appear more successful than she was ever capable of being, and at worst, a straight up con woman. The family of a pregnant Colorado woman who was murdered by her husband paid tribute to her and said she was 'born to be a mother' at her joint funeral with her two daughters and unborn son. What do you mean? ^^ he would excuse her cunty behavior by saying she was having a bad day but it happened all the time. She expected to quietly . You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. But judges usually have some discretion in the awarding of child support, which can include maintaining a house for the use of the children. @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? With Shanann (disclaimer: no, of course she didnt deserve to die!) Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. So depressing. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. Chris Watts is a textbook Malignant-Covert Somatic Narcissist. She had DOUBLE Munchausen's! R181, basically what we already knew. R199, I saw that. The documentary pieced together the events . More than a half year before their affair began. She must have been extremely annoying when alive. She was working to provide for family while her husband plotted murder. You seem to like the psychopath label. Shanann Watts was about 15 weeks pregnant when police say her husband, Chris Watts, killed her and their girls Monday, Aug. 13, 2018. Go back to your thoughts and prayers and handwringing over how things like this can happen, while never trying to actually make sense of it beyond coming to the conclusion of CRAZY. I SWEAR she had it. That was a detailed and well written article, R227; better than most others I have read about his new confession. Suffering. But DL is the only forum that doesn't immediately shut down even the slightest criticism of this woman. [post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Oh how Shanann was so excited to be able to have another child because of her battle with Lupus. She was a little grifter bitch. His facial expressions reveal that he's more complex than that. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. He learned of this case from social media and news. But family members remain baffled by the murders, and police remain tight-lipped about how the woman and girls were killed, and what the suspected motive was. I don't knowdon't strive to live in the suburbs in a big fucking house with a spouse who spends money or one who is mentally unstable and has access to oil vats, and, most importantly, don't fucking have kids. Sorry, anyone that feels for this monster needs his or her head examined, pronto. R145, youre right about that. I agree CBH. Take a look at It doesnt matter what her past mistakes may or may not have been. Can you imagine her as a single parent? My god, as much as I cannot stand Shannan, Jennifer and Sarah Hart were much worse! Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? I need you to meet me halfway. The FBI agents are being complimented as ingenius interrogators, but their smarminess is also cringeworthy. I think Celeste was adorable. It was probably thousands of dollars in inventory combined with all that other crap they spent their money on. And it was mostly consumer debt, no? Press J to jump to the feed. Her high school drama teacher said they called her Shanna ANN. I wish I hadn't read that final interview with the murderer. RELATED:. I know that being a pain in the ass isn't grounds for death; if it were, I'd have been dead long ago. Shanann Watts Met Husband Chris Online During Dark Period 8 Years Before Murder: 'He Is Amazing' Pregnant Mom Was Slain After Work Trip Then Allegedly Buried in 'Shallow Grave' by Husband. ! she texted, adding, He said we are not compatible anymore! He did not receive a warm welcome when he reunited with them in NC. And Im pretty sure Colorado wouldve ruled that Shanann couldnt use her kids as props in any more public Thrive videos. shanann watts first marriage shanann watts first marriage (No Ratings Yet) . Women like that can get him to do anything. On Feb. 18, over a span of five hours, Watts shared with investigators more disturbing details in how he killed his wife, Shanann, and their two daughters in August 2018. If we assume that she killed the children, why did he not turn her to the police and secretly dumped the bodies of his children that she killed. She left her own recorded testimony and out of her own mouth she indictes herself. R141 Your boy was fucked with or without the nosy friend. r50 frankly even the kids seemed hard to root for. I got smacked around for saying it, but Chris is boring and shes much more interesting. Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. I should have been tipped off when I saw how close the Watts' house was to Nosy Nate's; they could have passed a cup of sugar without leaving their kitchens. Why are some posters feel the need to say that the toddlers are "ugly". Authorities still do not know exactly what led Chris who was having an affair with a co-worker to kill his whole family that fateful morning, after which he went on TV news to plead for her safe return.". Shanann Watts, 34, had two young daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste - who went by CeCe-, 3, with Chris Watts. She wanted people to ask her, "How should I pronounce your name?" Im not doubting exactly, I just need it explained.
Shannan did indeed feed Bella and CeCe Thrive K. Heres an inspiring video with comments to tell you how wonderful it was. But a physician assistant diagnosed it when all the MDs couldnt. It was a part of his responsibility. I wondered why, on the initial Officer Coonrod bodycam videos, there was no furniture in the dining room. Then, he crams them all down an oil tank. Im not saying she killed anyone, but I think she goaded him. Happy deathaversary, Shanannanananananana!! Shannon too did a lot for the family. [quote]I dont trust every single thing he said & I still think he cares enough (for whatever reason) about his reputation & how people view him (close friends, family members like his mom & dad, and even Nichol K. and the public) to leave certain things out/fudge the truth about some of the incidents he described. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Maybe it was a neat and tidy rule. R231, thats a very good point. It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. to brutally cutting off their air supply & feeling nothing as they grunt and move around under the Yankees blanket struggling to breathe? Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche], TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Visit the post for more. Police say that Christopher Watts, 33, was arrested in connection with the murder of his wife, Shanann Watts, 34, and two daughters, Celeste and Bella, ages 3 and 4, according to police . Daughter of Private and Private Everyones awful. Why is he being so cold? And then she does the usual bulldozer thing (she just couldnt help it) and buys a self-help book and demands he read it and write a fucking book report on it. Anybody else feel this way? And nursing school, befriending nurses and working in a childrens hospital? Thats bullshit made up by her crazy ass, psycho in-laws the ones that raised a murderer. Shanann met Chris Lee Watts in 2010. I dont know what kind of insurance they had, but wow. Chris watts should never get out of prison. People are not born Coverts Narcissist, they become and it stems from bad parenting. Didnt Shanann cheat on Leonard with the middle eastern guy at Dirty South he mentions? He described how he did it. For anyone who hasn't read it here's his CBI interview copied/pasted directly from the Discovery: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. Im sure NK wasnt blaming everything on some imaginary disease (yes, I know lupus is REAL, but Shanann didnt have it). Only they know, but I bet that is the case. Reinventing the spelling of a name is for high school kids. I'm not at all surprised she was able to get the $ to build and furnish that house. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. Perhaps they were close at one time. The video of Chris and family at Myrtle Beach has been now taken down from YouTube, as well as most of the videos put up courtesy of Plunder. She was an odious frau and I could believe she was a Munchausen's case. Shananns husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background.". LEONARD was unable to get details from her. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. (ThePilot.com reports Leonard T. King, plaintiff vs. Shannon [sic] C. King, defendant in Moore County, North Carolina, Public Records - May 3, 2009)They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. With the anticipation of her son to join them she knew he would be loved by his sisters and family. Didnt like his Mustang, made him sell it. But Chris was so lackadaisical about the finances in the Feb 18 interview. This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. This has kept me entertained. I spoke with LEONARD KING ( ) by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. Facebook & its ilk are full of fraus like her -- none of them deserve to die but all of them are annoying as hell. [quote] in 2018, they were already in debt to the tune of almost 500K. NK was a normal, healthy, financial-responsible woman who loved Colorado sightseeing, hiking, camping, probably skiing, exploring natural resources, and all things normal people do in Colorado. Chris and Shanann met in 2010 in their home state of North Carolina and got married on Nov. 3, 2012. (And filed for bankruptcy in 2015!). "When Shanann Watts blew out the candles on her birthday cake on January 10, 2018, with her two young daughters by her side, she had no idea it would be her last birthday or that all three of them would be dead in the coming year. He's remarried with children; and also suffered the devastating loss of his younger brother in 2016. R122 Well, what is your standard? I hope Chris is released someday, he shouldn't have to spend the rest of his life in prison. R107, yup yup yup. This explains why he had both female AND male secret lovers. No college degree, working as a manager of a tire/rim shop, builds a gigantic house. However, anyone who devotes MONTHS to harping on how annoying a dead woman was when she was alive, has all the screws loose. I asked about SHANANNs skills in conflict resolution. He used the same blanket to kill 4-year-old Bella . The only other option would have been for Chris to be full-time parent. And Shanann. There were rumors that she was banging her boss, Hisham. R211, they should have used a female investigator with gigantic breasts, grating voice and bossy demeanor. This YouTube channel has tons of Shan'ann's Facebook Live videos where she's blathering about those sketchy Thrive products. R109: if Shannnanon filed for divorce claiming adultry, pregnant with 2 children under 5, shell get what she wants. He knows his wife is in CONSTANT contact with her friends. She wanted her name to be unique and to standoutand to make pharmacists nervous about trying to call it out over the PA system without offending her. Its very difficult to call out liars unless theres a criminal act like fraud. All her bad decisions and shadyness led her to her violent death. And once she was done she cut him out of her life. My sister and I both had asthma when we were kids in the 80s. One of the detectives admonished him, "Yes, but we I am asking you about Shannan now". I spoke with LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. She was not confrontational and more withdrew.#ShanannWatts #ChrisWattschris watts, true crime, true crime history, watts crime, watts family, cece watts, bella watts, tori hartman, chris watts history, chris watts timeline, live video, cbs news, colorado man. An accomplice would have driven her car out to the site, they would have detonated the explosion and voila. Not even once. Yes, R228, I agree with everything you wrote. And worse he crushed his own murdered childrens skulls through a narrow opening into an oil drum. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. That's an interesting piece of information. Watts wife was 15 weeks pregnant. Hours later, Chris killed her and the girls. This is a good thread! True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. She wasn't some hermit shut in who posted incessantly on DL.